wookie_x: I really don’t bother with religion or atheism, but I’ve got to say, that’s the stupidest argument I’ve ever heard. For literally thousands of years – long before either modern atheism or christianity existed – people have been pointing out that every sense and memory are deceptive, and that believing in anything we experience is a leap of faith. Hell, atheism itself (as opposed to agnosticism) is a leap of faith because you have to assert that there is no God, and, usually, that the scientific method actually works. How can you assert anything, really, when you know that every method you have of understanding the world is faulty? Hell, even the super-emperical scientific method turns out to be deeply rooted in ethical assumptions: Half the science in the last 150 years ranges from stupid to nightmare, not because of any real change in the empirical method, but because of the changing values of society. I put as much faith in that as in an old man in the clouds.

You know, this whole creationism/religion/atheism debate has got to be one of the most annoying things on the internet. In most developed countries, this debate ends when you’re eighteen and you either grow up or become a jerk-ass pseudo-philosopher like fucking Richard Dawkins or the Pope. Yet, Americans mainly on the internet are having the most limp-wristed girly spapfight of the century, each side thinking they’re the most clever thing ever to happen when in reality, they’re just dredging up the most banal, boring stupid arguments I’ve ever seen repeated a thousand times.