Why did the world get saved? Because of the pathetic kid?? I can accept the all powerful aliens, I can accept the nano-bot plague of locust, but saving the world because of a mother loving the pathetic asshole kid of her dead husband???
If I was an alien, that asshole kid would be the first to die. Immediately followed by any writer associated with that steaming pile of shit they used as a script.
Haha. Stupid asshole kid.
I actually enjoyed the remake. But only because of Keanu. I could stare at that man for days, and yes I’m ashamed for it.
Otherwise, it wasn’t that good. At least most people are aware that the original is superior to the remake, and that the remake exists only because of greedy, unimaginative people.
This movie is full of American propaganda, especially when the alien gives his speech at the end. I did not enjoy it.
The remake could have been good if it didn’t try to be all sentimental, it was as bad as the original, but fron other points of view.
dieAntagonista (#)
15 years ago
@...Lamb: I think you got it all wrong. Portraying how primitive people are, because they’re afraid if they don’t take advantage of whatever information is available, their neighbour might do it and use it against them. Another way to put it, if we don’t get the the big guns and massive missiles, our neighbour might do it and we’re doomed.
If you don’t like the execution of the film, well that’s too bad. But it can be hardly considered propaganda. It’s very real.
@...dieAntagonista: That’s not all he says… Watch it again and listen very very carefully to what he is saying. It’s like those posters before World War One I’ve seen here on MCS.
dieAntagonista (#)
15 years ago
@...Lamb: Ah I’m not sure what you’re talking about, but I thought the main message was very clear. At least that’s all I absorbed. If you’d be more concrete, I could tell you what I think. If there was any kind of propaganda, I missed it, and they didn’t do a very good job.
Not american propaganda, but propaganda nevertheless:
“they made laws and hired policemen to enforce them.” then he continues on how policing the world
“free to pursue more profitable enterprises” the fuck is that? an alien comes on earth and tells us money is important? no, advancement in technology is important.
Then he tells earth: stop being violent, or we’ll kill you! (this, is the american thing I was talking about)
WarGames is a movie that does exactly what you said The Day The Earth Stood Still does.
“Profitable enterprises” doesn’t necessary mean to make money, it can mean many things, to include advancement in technology.
Also, the alien didn’t say we had to stop being violent, only that if humans continued on being violent we would eventually produce a weapon so dangerous that we would become a danger to them, and that was something they could not tolerate.
@...gor: Also, the alien didn’t say we had to stop being violent, only that if humans continued on being violent we would eventually produce a weapon so dangerous that we would become a danger to them, and that was something they could not tolerate.
You contradicted yourself in this one.
And I can see that I didn’t finish a sentence:
“they made laws and hired policemen to enforce them.†then he continues on how policing the world is the best thing they found.
There is no contradiction, just a warning. We could do whatever we like, but if we continued on the path of weapon development we would eventually discover a weapon so hideous that they would be forced to remove the threat we would pose.
I see what you mean now. Well I didn’t think that’s what it was about at all. To me the film doesn’t revolve around that aspect. It was about human behaviour. That threat was just a way of showing how ugly we can be, as in trying to force him to tell only us what information he has rather than all leaders at once, and then the asshole kid and the woman.
dieAntagonista (#)
15 years ago
Si uita de nesimtitul. Nu o sa te asculta, si asa. Isi iubeste tara egal cat de criminali sunt.
@...dieAntagonista: It would’ve been nice if it were only about human nature. @...dieAntagonista: Pai da, orice om care isi iubeste tara ii un om ignorant.
dieAntagonista (#)
15 years ago
@...Lamb: Haha, da cred ca ai dreptate. Imi place ca ai spus asta. Dar el este cu mult mai rau.
dieAntagonista (#)
15 years ago
Sau, el e cu mult mai rau? Ugh. De ce tot nu tsam scris pana acuma.
@...dieAntagonista: Nu stiu cat de rau ii, heh.
nu este nici o diferenta intre e si este, e ii numai o prescurtare la este.
este = e = îi
Pai nu stiu, eu tot astept.
I just watched the remake. It was kind of boring but the effects were nice.
The alien said that the human race has to stop developing technology, not just weapons, because they are destroying the earth which is one of the few planets diverse enough to support life. Since humans can’t stop polluting all by themselves, they were forced to do so by the big brothers who roam the galaxies.
I just didn’t understand why he gave the message to a single human so that no one else on the planet has an idea about what is happening. Not only that but did shutting everything off render oil useless too? I mean, if the whole planet doesn’t get the message than how will they know how to behave (as if they would… we humans are more likely to go “oh yeah? watch what we can do!)?
Ah yes that’s what I thought. So gor was wrong. It wasn’t because we would become a danger to them but to the planet.
At first he demanded to see all leaders of all countries, he wanted to give them the message only if they’re all present. But they wouldn’t let him, remember?
And then he fled.
@...dieAntagonista: Nu te-ai purtat urat.
Hehe, chiar citesti asa ceva? Ca si cum ai citi ,,Codul bunelor maniere”.
A da, sa te corectez cand gresesti ceva pe romana? Am vrut sa o fac direct, da’ nu am vrut sa par de rahat.
Daa, trebuie sa citesc. Tatal meu a spus ca trebuie sa invat cum se comporte o lady. Si sa nu mai ma urc pa pomi. Si mm da “Codul bunelor maniere” suna foarte bine, cam asa.
Te rog, sa ma corectez, da sigur.
It did, yay @...dieAntagonista:
Daa, trebuie sa citesc. Tatal meu a spus ca trebuie sa invat cum se comporta o lady. Si sa nu mai ma urc pe pomi. Si mm da “Codul bunelor maniere†suna foarte bine, cam asa. <-Nu stiu de ce ai scis cam asa.
Te rog, sa ma corectezi, da sigur. <- Aici ii ori: ,,Te rog sa ma corectezi”, ori: ,,Da sigur, corecteaza-ma”.
Urca-te in copaci, de ce n-ai face-o? It’s bone breaking fun!
,,Codul bunelor maniere” ii o carticica plina de prostii nefolositoare care sa te faca sa par un prostalau plin de aere. [cough]
I recently watched this for the first time. It was wonderful. I had previously watched the remake, which I thought was good, but needed work. Strengthening of plot mainly. I didn’t think the acting was god awful, and it was nice to see Mr. Cleese.
O.K.,die and Lamb, Please respect the other’s on this site,,,it’s mandatory that you only speak Latin. Otherwise the rest of us won’t know if you’re talkin’ about us!!!lol.
klaatu barada nikto
Would that be the Hawaiian dialect? Why I ask, is it sounds familiare to South Pacific.
Such a gorgeous film.
@...dieAntagonista:
True.
I watched the recent remake. It angered me.
Why did the world get saved? Because of the pathetic kid?? I can accept the all powerful aliens, I can accept the nano-bot plague of locust, but saving the world because of a mother loving the pathetic asshole kid of her dead husband???
If I was an alien, that asshole kid would be the first to die. Immediately followed by any writer associated with that steaming pile of shit they used as a script.
@...ack:
Haha. Stupid asshole kid.
I actually enjoyed the remake. But only because of Keanu. I could stare at that man for days, and yes I’m ashamed for it.
Otherwise, it wasn’t that good. At least most people are aware that the original is superior to the remake, and that the remake exists only because of greedy, unimaginative people.
And yeah I would have killed them all too.
I hope Reeves’ dreamboatyness doesn’t blind you to his horrible acting, dieA.
I am also of the opinion that the original was genius, and the remake was terrible.
I never said he was a good actor. Just that I like to look at him.
And The Matrix has a special place in my heart, sadly I’m also silly loyal.
This movie is full of American propaganda, especially when the alien gives his speech at the end. I did not enjoy it.
The remake could have been good if it didn’t try to be all sentimental, it was as bad as the original, but fron other points of view.
@...Lamb: I think you got it all wrong. Portraying how primitive people are, because they’re afraid if they don’t take advantage of whatever information is available, their neighbour might do it and use it against them. Another way to put it, if we don’t get the the big guns and massive missiles, our neighbour might do it and we’re doomed.
If you don’t like the execution of the film, well that’s too bad. But it can be hardly considered propaganda. It’s very real.
@...dieAntagonista: That’s not all he says… Watch it again and listen very very carefully to what he is saying. It’s like those posters before World War One I’ve seen here on MCS.
@...Lamb: Ah I’m not sure what you’re talking about, but I thought the main message was very clear. At least that’s all I absorbed. If you’d be more concrete, I could tell you what I think. If there was any kind of propaganda, I missed it, and they didn’t do a very good job.
Not american propaganda, but propaganda nevertheless:
“they made laws and hired policemen to enforce them.” then he continues on how policing the world
“free to pursue more profitable enterprises” the fuck is that? an alien comes on earth and tells us money is important? no, advancement in technology is important.
Then he tells earth: stop being violent, or we’ll kill you! (this, is the american thing I was talking about)
WarGames is a movie that does exactly what you said The Day The Earth Stood Still does.
“Profitable enterprises” doesn’t necessary mean to make money, it can mean many things, to include advancement in technology.
Also, the alien didn’t say we had to stop being violent, only that if humans continued on being violent we would eventually produce a weapon so dangerous that we would become a danger to them, and that was something they could not tolerate.
@...gor: Also, the alien didn’t say we had to stop being violent, only that if humans continued on being violent we would eventually produce a weapon so dangerous that we would become a danger to them, and that was something they could not tolerate.
You contradicted yourself in this one.
And I can see that I didn’t finish a sentence:
“they made laws and hired policemen to enforce them.†then he continues on how policing the world is the best thing they found.
There is no contradiction, just a warning. We could do whatever we like, but if we continued on the path of weapon development we would eventually discover a weapon so hideous that they would be forced to remove the threat we would pose.
That’s not doing whatever we want, that’s conditioning.
@...Lamb:
I see what you mean now. Well I didn’t think that’s what it was about at all. To me the film doesn’t revolve around that aspect. It was about human behaviour. That threat was just a way of showing how ugly we can be, as in trying to force him to tell only us what information he has rather than all leaders at once, and then the asshole kid and the woman.
Si uita de nesimtitul. Nu o sa te asculta, si asa. Isi iubeste tara egal cat de criminali sunt.
@...dieAntagonista: It would’ve been nice if it were only about human nature.
@...dieAntagonista: Pai da, orice om care isi iubeste tara ii un om ignorant.
@...Lamb: Haha, da cred ca ai dreptate. Imi place ca ai spus asta. Dar el este cu mult mai rau.
Sau, el e cu mult mai rau? Ugh. De ce tot nu tsam scris pana acuma.
@...dieAntagonista: Nu stiu cat de rau ii, heh.
nu este nici o diferenta intre e si este, e ii numai o prescurtare la este.
este = e = îi
Pai nu stiu, eu tot astept.
I just watched the remake. It was kind of boring but the effects were nice.
The alien said that the human race has to stop developing technology, not just weapons, because they are destroying the earth which is one of the few planets diverse enough to support life. Since humans can’t stop polluting all by themselves, they were forced to do so by the big brothers who roam the galaxies.
I just didn’t understand why he gave the message to a single human so that no one else on the planet has an idea about what is happening. Not only that but did shutting everything off render oil useless too? I mean, if the whole planet doesn’t get the message than how will they know how to behave (as if they would… we humans are more likely to go “oh yeah? watch what we can do!)?
@...outofocus:
Ah yes that’s what I thought. So gor was wrong. It wasn’t because we would become a danger to them but to the planet.
At first he demanded to see all leaders of all countries, he wanted to give them the message only if they’re all present. But they wouldn’t let him, remember?
And then he fled.
@...Lamb:
Multumesc. Dec ai asteptat? Imi pare rau. M-am purtat cam urat. O sa iti scriu imediat dupa ce am citit cartea asta despre how to behave like a lady.
@...dieAntagonista: Nu te-ai purtat urat.
Hehe, chiar citesti asa ceva? Ca si cum ai citi ,,Codul bunelor maniere”.
A da, sa te corectez cand gresesti ceva pe romana? Am vrut sa o fac direct, da’ nu am vrut sa par de rahat.
@...Lamb:
Daa, trebuie sa citesc. Tatal meu a spus ca trebuie sa invat cum se comporte o lady. Si sa nu mai ma urc pa pomi. Si mm da “Codul bunelor maniere” suna foarte bine, cam asa.
Te rog, sa ma corectez, da sigur.
let’s see if this works: ihsgfkfhg
It did, yay
@...dieAntagonista:
Daa, trebuie sa citesc. Tatal meu a spus ca trebuie sa invat cum se comporta o lady. Si sa nu mai ma urc pe pomi. Si mm da “Codul bunelor maniere†suna foarte bine, cam asa. <-Nu stiu de ce ai scis cam asa.
Te rog, sa ma corectezi, da sigur. <- Aici ii ori: ,,Te rog sa ma corectezi”, ori: ,,Da sigur, corecteaza-ma”.
Urca-te in copaci, de ce n-ai face-o? It’s bone breaking fun!
,,Codul bunelor maniere” ii o carticica plina de prostii nefolositoare care sa te faca sa par un prostalau plin de aere. [cough]
@...Lamb:
Tulai doamne.
Cred ca ii mai bine daca ma corectezi nu ma per email, or this is going to be a full time job.
Oh nu stiu, trebuie sa ascult pe tatal meu sau nu.
“ii o carticica plina de prostii nefolositoare care sa te faca sa par un prostalau plin de aere.”
Perfect! I need it.
Oh poor Lamb, you don’t happen to have asthma do you.
Ok. Numa’ pe e-mail.
Well… buy it, it’s not a romanian book.
I recently watched this for the first time. It was wonderful. I had previously watched the remake, which I thought was good, but needed work. Strengthening of plot mainly. I didn’t think the acting was god awful, and it was nice to see Mr. Cleese.
O.K.,die and Lamb, Please respect the other’s on this site,,,it’s mandatory that you only speak Latin. Otherwise the rest of us won’t know if you’re talkin’ about us!!!lol.
I don’t know about you, but I can’t quite understand Latin. So wtf? Also, Romanian is a romance language, thus coming down from latin.